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I'm wanting to buy a POV slot to bring my ATV. It would only be used as a troop/equipment transport.  I'm registered for UFS.

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I don't have insurance on it, but have no problems in doing so. My question is, how do I go about getting it approved? Do I buy the slot and then get it approved, or get it approved first?  Let me know asap so I can get an insurance card and buy a slot if need be.

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Look at PoV Requirements F

 

 

VEHICLES (POVs)

 

Definition of Vehicle Type

A.  Transport Vehicle

Transport vehicles cannot under any circumstances engage from their vehicle.  In order to engage enemy forces your vehicle must come to a complete stop and players must fully egress the vehicle before engaging.  This means your feet must be on the ground and exposed when firing.

B.  Gun Truck

Gun Trucks may engage from their vehicle.  All windows must be opened.  Gun ports must be of specified size.  The use of camo, mesh netting and Plexiglas add on armor is NOT permitted.  Any add on armor of this nature would need to be painted, to not be seen through.  Gunners may not have 360° cover or use a “CROWS†system (Remote Operated Weapon System).  Windows and gun ports must REMAIN OPEN for the duration of the event.  Driver and passenger window must stay closed throughout the event.

 

Approval Process

A.  Determine if your POV is a “Transport†or “Gun Truck†per description noted above.

B.  Submit POV Application, Proof of insurance and photos of your POV.

C.  Upon approval you will be notified by email and your photos and applications passed on to your respective CO for approval.  Be advised this is not a first come first serve and is up to your CO.  There will be limited POV per event so a commander is likely to explore his options before approving.

D.  Upon approval from your CO, AMS will be notified and a promo code will be issued so you may register your POV.

 

 

POV Requirements

Failure to follow these rules and regulations may result in a 10PT war crime and your POV pass being revoked without refund.

 

A.  Each POV will be given a POV number by staff.  This number must be VISIBLE at all time during the event.  It is the POV owner’s responsibility to place the POV number on their vehicle.

B.  POV pass and Agreement must be signed by the POV operator and/or owner.

C.  POV pass and agreement must be kept on the dash and visible at all times.

D.  All windows must be down on a gun truck with the exception of the driver’s side front window, and the front passenger window.

 

E.  Players riding in an open Cab, Bed or Side rails of POV must wear a helmet that offers bump protection.

F.  4 Wheelers are not allowed as a POV.  (Player command staff are authorized (1) 4 wheeler for each faction are authorized at events where POVs are being utilized.

G.  ALL POVs MUST STAY within TEN feet of defined roads.  (POVs may pull off roads and around other vehicles, but no trail blazing).

H.  POV Issued Number:  You will be issued (4) 8.5x11 pieces of paper with your POV number printed on them.  These will be attached to all sides of your POV.  You may also stencil your assigned number to each side of your POV in 8.5x11 inches in size and easily seen.

I.  All POVs are required to have CB radio with antenna to have direct contact with other POV and AMS Command throughout the event, channels will be assigned prior.  (An actual CB Radio on CB frequencies).  If your CB goes out, then your vehicle is off of the field.

J.  All POVs are required to have a ground guide when driving in reverse.  This means a passenger must exit the stopped vehicle with his dead rag on and guide the vehicles going in reverse.  Upon entering the POV the ground guide will then take his dead rag off and resume play.  A ground guide cannon be killed so no need to shoot at him. 

K.  All Player POVs are considered “Light Armor†regardless of aesthetic modifications.

L.  All POVs must have a First Aid Kit capable of stopping moderate bleeding.  Kit will be inspected on site.

M.  All POV must have at least 4 Liters of drinking water.

N.  Forward facing gun shields are acceptable, but 360 degree coverage around the gunner is not authorized. 

O.  Forward facing gun shields may not be seen through.  If it is made of Plexiglas, then it needs to be painted. 

P.  All players firing from gun trucks must be able to see down the sights of their weapons.  Anything less is blind firing. 

Q.  If a gun truck wishes to have any windows closed, they must be covered with add on armor. (This is to prevent windows from being rolled up and down throughout the weekend.

R.  Any added gun ports must be minimum 18â€x12†and remain opened at all times.

S.  When vehicles are inspected on Friday, they must remain in the same configuration throughout the weekend.  They cannot change from a gun truck to a transport truck or vise versa. 

The spirit of these requirements is to provide a useful vehicle that can transport and be fought out of, but that is also vulnerable and not a tank. 

 

POV Rules

A.  Unauthorized vehicles are not allowed on the field of play, and are never to be used in a game (unless cleared by the administration).

B.  Player POVs are limited to 15 MPH.

C.  All POVs must prove they are insured and show proof at POV meeting.

D.  POV drivers must be at least 18 years of age.

E.  All players being transported in an open bed, on running boards or otherwise outside the cab area must wear helmets.  THIS INCLUDES IN THE STAGING AREA

F.  Players in ghillie suits WILL NEVER lie near vehicle roads, trails or in the driving path of any vehicle (USE COMON SENSE).

G.  Vehicle must be at complete stop for ingress/egress.  Players are not allowed to exit or enter ANY moving Vehicle.

H.  Players are never to stand, lay prone or supine next to a moving APC(s)/Tanks/POVs because of the turn radius blind spots.

I.  Players should exercise EXTREME caution around APC(s)/Tank doors and hatches.  They are heavy and will easily “remove†fingers.

J.  Only HWS launched rockets disable vehicles.  Must be a frontal hit (for the driver to see) this does not kill the crew, but only disables the vehicle and forces the crew to exit or concede being killed and ride back to your FOB for re-spawn.

K.  If a HWS fired rocket should land inside the crew compartment (front or back) the vehicle and all occupants are considered destroyed and killed.

L.  Destroyed POVs must return to their primary FOB and check in with their leadership and serve a 10 minute “repair timeâ€.

M.  Players shot inside a vehicle are to follow the normal medic and re-spawn rules.

N.  Vehicles cannot be TOUCHED killed by a player because of safety issues.

O.  Players must stay a minimum of 10FT from all moving POV.  If you are too close, move away.

P.  POVs will signal being destroyed by flashing their Hazard lights and / or Hoisting / Attaching a Dead Rag or Red Flag to the vehicle that is visible from all sides (i.e. Vehicle Radio antenna).

 

 

POV Rule Violations

A.  10PT deduction per POV violation plus 1 hour parked

B.  3rd violation of same POV is parked for weekend with no refund

C.  After 5th POV violation per faction will result in additional 20PT deduction

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So in other words, thats not allowed as a POV ;)

 

Nice looking Rancher? there though ;)

 

If you are coming to BH you might still consider bringing it for the "fun" we have prior to the event if you get there Thursday.

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Reading is too hard. :D

 

Thanks though.  Is this a new(er) rule?  Just curious.  I recall them being used at BH2 (can't remember if I saw any last year).

 

It is a sexy beast though.  I just might come down Thursday night for fun time.

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Reading is too hard. :D

 

Thanks though.  Is this a new(er) rule?  Just curious.  I recall them being used at BH2 (can't remember if I saw any last year).

 

It is a sexy beast though.  I just might come down Thursday night for fun time.

 

Kinda "newer".  The idea is to steer away from the "ATV / UTV as a POV" ideology, and more into something that could / would be seen in the real world. (So to speak)

 

For example:  at BH last year, I saw that someone had actually paracorded a SAW onto the framework of their UTV, and was driving it around shooting people like it was a "gun truck".....

 

I literally wanted to throw rocks at them. 

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Kinda "newer".  The idea is to steer away from the "ATV / UTV as a POV" ideology, and more into something that could / would be seen in the real world. (So to speak)

 

For example:  at BH last year, I saw that someone had actually paracorded a SAW onto the framework of their UTV, and was driving it around shooting people like it was a "gun truck".....

 

I literally wanted to throw rocks at them. 

Yeah because that was so much less of a POV than the Car frame from somalia running around as a POV.. 

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US military by some stats are the largest single UTV purchaser. I was going to buy a british main battle tank but it would be against the rules. 

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Yeah because that was so much less of a POV than the Car frame from somalia running around as a POV.. 

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ATV's were originally taken out of the equation as POV's because they do not offer as much utility for the team a a whole.  It's not because it's not milsim, it's about utility for the teams.  This may change in the future due to the way we do the POV applications now.  This will be discussed after Broken Home.

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would like to see rules ammended at some point because my group has access to ACTUAL armored vehicles (that are likely housed at least temporaily at Dday), but there is little point to using them because they would be treated the same as a pickup truck as far as armor goes.

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would like to see rules ammended at some point because my group has access to ACTUAL armored vehicles (that are likely housed at least temporaily at Dday), but there is little point to using them because they would be treated the same as a pickup truck as far as armor goes.

This has come up many times in the lead up to broken home this year, and will be addressed post Broken Home during the summer.  Nothing will change before Broken Home this year, but it's been heard.

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One thought to keep in mind. Many of us are selling off our military trucks right now. I am personally only planning to keep my M151, Stagg has already transported his deuce out to Ohio. Brett has hauled all of his back to St Louis. Dave is selling the Ferret. Many other guys are in the same position.

 

These things are screaming good fun to play with but you sort of need a reason to have them around or they just sit there. Without East Wind, why have a deuce in my driveway when I can put a sailboat there instead? The sailboat can take me to the Bahamas or the Dry Tortugas on my vacations, just like I used to use my deuce to do fun things on my vacations.

 

Ask yourself this, if there was no place to play airsoft for a year how many of us would still be involved after that year?

 

Make the determination after Broken Home if that is what you need to do but do not be surprised if it does not matter by then.

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I understand this, but with the event being so close, we don't like to make changes this short notice.  It sounds like everyone has already made the determination to move their vehicles, or sell them anyway, so why take the extra time when we are already in crunch mode for Broken Home for something that would have minimal impact in the next two weeks. 

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