2015 POV Ruleset

[The Rick 238]

VEHICLES (POVs)

 

Definition of Vehicle Type

A.  Transport Vehicle

Transport vehicles cannot under any circumstances engage from their vehicle.  In order to engage enemy forces your vehicle must come to a complete stop and players must fully egress the vehicle before engaging.  This means your feet must be on the ground and exposed when firing.

B.  Gun Truck

Gun Trucks may engage from their vehicle.  All windows must be opened.  Gun ports must be of specified size.  The use of camo, mesh netting and Plexiglas add on armor is NOT permitted.  Any add on armor of this nature would need to be painted, to not be seen through.  Gunners may not have 360° cover or use a CROWS system (Remote Operated Weapon System).  Windows and gun ports must REMAIN OPEN for the duration of the event.  Driver and passenger window must stay closed throughout the event.

 

Approval Process

A.  Determine if your POV is a Transport or a Gun Truck per description noted above.

B.  Submit POV Application, Proof of insurance and photos of your POV to INFO@americanmilsim.com.

C.  Upon approval you will be notified by email and your photos and applications passed on to your respective CO for approval.  Be advised this is not a first come first serve and is up to your CO.  There will be limited POV per event so a commander is likely to explore his options before approving.

D.  Upon approval from your CO, AMS will be notified and a promo code will be issued so you may register your POV.

 

 

POV Requirements

Failure to follow these rules and regulations may result in a 10PT war crime and your POV pass being revoked without refund.

 

A.  Each POV will be given a POV number by staff.  This number must be VISIBLE at all time during the event.  It is the POV owner’s responsibility to place the POV number on their vehicle.

B.  POV pass and Agreement must be signed by the POV operator and/or owner.

C.  POV pass and agreement must be kept on the dash and visible at all times.

D.  All windows must be down on a gun truck with the exception of the driver’s side front window, and the front passenger window.

E.  Players riding in an open Cab, Bed or Side rails of POV must wear a helmet that offers bump protection.

F.  4 Wheelers are not allowed as a POV.  (Player command staff are authorized (1) 4 wheeler for each faction are authorized at events where POVs are being utilized.

G.  ALL POVs MUST STAY within TEN feet of defined roads.  (POVs may pull off roads and around other vehicles, but no trail blazing).

H.  POV Issued Number:  You will be issued (4) 8.5x11 pieces of paper with your POV number printed on them.  These will be attached to all sides of your POV.  You may also stencil your assigned number to each side of your POV in 8.5x11 inches in size and easily seen.

I  All POVs are required to have CB radio with antenna to have direct contact with other POV and AMS Command throughout the event, channels will be assigned prior.  (An actual CB Radio on CB frequencies).  If your CB goes out, then your vehicle is off of the field.

J.  All POVs are required to have a ground guide when driving in reverse.  This means a passenger must exit the stopped vehicle with his dead rag on and guide the vehicles going in reverse.  Upon entering the POV the ground guide will then take his dead rag off and resume play.  A ground guide cannon be killed so no need to shoot at him. 

K.  All Player POVs are considered “Light Armor†regardless of aesthetic modifications.

L.  All POVs must have a First Aid Kit capable of stopping moderate bleeding.  Kit will be inspected on site.

M.  All POV must have at least 4 Liters of drinking water.

N.  Forward facing gun shields are acceptable, but 360 degree coverage around the gunner is not authorized. 

O.  Forward facing gun shields may not be seen through.  If it is made of Plexiglas, then it needs to be painted. 

P.  All players firing from gun trucks must be looking down the sights of their weapons.  Anything less is blind firing. 

Q.  If a gun truck wishes to have any windows closed, they must be covered with add on armor. (This is to prevent windows from being rolled up and down throughout the weekend.

R.  Any added gun ports must be minimum 18â€x12†and remain opened at all times.

S.  When vehicles are inspected on Friday, they must remain in the same configuration throughout the weekend.  They cannot change from a gun truck to a transport truck or vise versa. 

The spirit of these requirements is to provide a useful vehicle that can transport and be fought out of, but that is also vulnerable and not a tank. 

 

POV Rules

A.  Unauthorized vehicles are not allowed on the field of play, and are never to be used in a game (unless cleared by the administration).

B.  Player POVs are limited to 15 MPH.

C.  All POVs must prove they are insured and show proof at POV meeting.

D.  POV drivers must be at least 18 years of age.

E.  All players being transported in an open bed, on running boards or otherwise outside the cab area must wear helmets.  THIS INCLUDES IN THE STAGING AREA

F.  Players in ghillie suits WILL NEVER lie near vehicle roads, trails or in the driving path of any vehicle (USE COMON SENSE).

G.  Vehicle must be at complete stop for ingress/egress.  Players are not allowed to exit or enter ANY moving Vehicle.

H.  Players are never to stand, lay prone or supine next to a moving APC(s)/Tanks/POVs because of the turn radius blind spots.

I.  Players should exercise EXTREME caution around APC(s)/Tank doors and hatches.  They are heavy and will easily “remove†fingers.

J.  Only HWS launched rockets disable vehicles.  Must be a frontal hit (for the driver to see) this does not kill the crew, but only disables the vehicle and forces the crew to exit or concede being killed and ride back to your FOB for re-spawn.

K.  If a HWS fired rocket should land inside the crew compartment (front or back) the vehicle and all occupants are considered destroyed and killed.

L.  Destroyed POVs must return to their primary FOB and check in with their leadership and serve a 10 minute “repair timeâ€.

M.  Players shot inside a vehicle are to follow the normal medic and re-spawn rules.

N.  Vehicles cannot be TOUCHED killed by a player because of safety issues.

O.  Players must stay a minimum of 10FT from all moving POV.  If you are too close, move away.

P.  POVs will signal being destroyed by flashing their Hazard lights and / or Hosting / Attaching a Dead Rag or Red Flag to the vehicle (i.e. Vehicle Radio antenna).

 

 

POV Rule Violations

A.  10PT deduction per POV violation plus 1 hour parked

B.  3rd violation of same POV is parked for weekend with no refund

C.  After 5th POV violation per faction will result in additional 20PT deduction

Edited June 13, 2021 by TheJP
POV email changed

[Dep 15]

Very detailed, nice.

 

One suggestion (not really a rule but a process): specific numbers assigned to factions. Example: UFS would get even numbers or 0-10 and CoST would get odd numbers or 11-20.

 

This would help with faction identification.

[Parks 121]

Road blocks? I only ask this since it was brought up on the CosT FB page. Last year some people were told they were not allowed due to safety concerns. And others say they were told they were legal. Whats AMS's take on this? I know it's "milsim" to block the roads, But it would also be "milsim" to just roll a tank through a road block.

[TheJP 3,301]

Road blocks? I only ask this since it was brought up on the CosT FB page. Last year some people were told they were not allowed due to safety concerns. And others say they were told they were legal. Whats AMS's take on this? I know it's "milsim" to block the roads, But it would also be "milsim" to just roll a tank through a road block.

 

Players are not allowed to create road blocks.

[Joe 120]

"In order to engage enemy forces your vehicle must come to a complete stop and players must fully egress the vehicle before engaging. This means your feet must be on the ground and exposed when firing."

 

Does this also mean troops exiting a transport vehicle cannot be fired upon until they have fully egressed the vehicle?

 

Not trying to be obtuse, just trying to head off a potential problem on the field.

 

Thanks,

[Alex AMS 614]

"In order to engage enemy forces your vehicle must come to a complete stop and players must fully egress the vehicle before engaging. This means your feet must be on the ground and exposed when firing."

 

Does this also mean troops exiting a transport vehicle cannot be fired upon until they have fully egressed the vehicle?

 

Not trying to be obtuse, just trying to head off a potential problem on the field.

 

Thanks,

The spirit of this rule is so that the passengers in the vehicle do not crack the doors and shoot out of them.  They can be fired upon while they are exiting the vehicle.  If this is an issue, then the driver should drop off his passengers in a better spot.  Hope this helps.

[Joe 120]

Absolutely. Like I said, not trying to stir up trouble, just trying to head it off.

[Alex AMS 614]

Your good. Clarity is usually key.

[Kurtz 13]

Where do I get my POV application? And if there is not one to be had, what Info would be required beyond pictures and proof of insurance?

[TheJP 3,301]

Where do I get my POV application? And if there is not one to be had, what Info would be required beyond pictures and proof of insurance?

 

Just step B currently, we will try and streamline this process in the future with an application.

 

Approval Process

A.  Determine if your POV is a “Transport” or “Gun Truck” per description noted above.

B.  Submit POV Application, Proof of insurance and photos of your POV to POVAPP@americanmilsim.com.

C.  Upon approval you will be notified by email and your photos and applications passed on to your respective CO for approval.  Be advised this is not a first come first serve and is up to your CO.  There will be limited POV per event so a commander is likely to explore his options before approving.

D.  Upon approval from your CO, AMS will be notified and a promo code will be issued so you may register your POV.

[Aswayze 364]

I would offer one suggestion/amendment to your rule set:  

 

Actual ex-military armored vehicles will be classed by their actual classification and are not limited by the guntruck rules limitations judged on a case by case basis.  For example a BTR-80 is an "Armored Personnel Carrier"  while a Ferret or a Fox is an "Armored Scout Car"

 

There are some actual armored vehicle owners remaining from past events that encouraged armor like East Wind or Tank Farm that might some day choose to venture into more mainstream airsoft, you'll want to have a ruleset that does not put them at a disadvantage or make their real armored fighting vehicle a "transport truck" while a paintball tank gets classed as a "gun truck".  

 

I specify ex-military in the above statement as well as judged on a case by case basis since some rules lawyer types might bring in stupid stuff like adding a 1/8th inch diamond plate to their pickup truck bed as "armor" or even things as silly as the fact that my Crown Victoria Police Interceptor I drive every day having level IV ceramic plates in the driver and passenger doors technically making it an "armored vehicle" which it obviously is not.   This gets vehicles like Ferrets, BTRs, Foxes, and such giving them enough of an advantage to offset the fact that they do not have cushy seats and air conditioning.  

 

 

Just a suggestion, take it for what it is worth.  

 

 

 

 

[Big Candy 321]

You mean this isn't the same as an APC?!   LIES YOU SAY!!!!

 

[Alex AMS 614]

That is pretty bad ass though.

[Aswayze 364]

Perhaps in a Syrian Civil War themed event.  

 

[Alex AMS 614]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[dirtpro 177]

Would love to see some provision for actual armored vehicles to have an advantage over my pick up truck with plywood bedsides. This is supposed to be milsim after all and it could encourage people to bring legitimate tactical vehicles rather than dress up their mom's van...

 

Just a thought!

[3-GUN 67]

I would offer one suggestion/amendment to your rule set:

 

Actual ex-military armored vehicles will be classed by their actual classification and are not limited by the guntruck rules limitations judged on a case by case basis. For example a BTR-80 is an "Armored Personnel Carrier" while a Ferret or a Fox is an "Armored Scout Car"

 

There are some actual armored vehicle owners remaining from past events that encouraged armor like East Wind or Tank Farm that might some day choose to venture into more mainstream airsoft, you'll want to have a ruleset that does not put them at a disadvantage or make their real armored fighting vehicle a "transport truck" while a paintball tank gets classed as a "gun truck".

 

I specify ex-military in the above statement as well as judged on a case by case basis since some rules lawyer types might bring in stupid stuff like adding a 1/8th inch diamond plate to their pickup truck bed as "armor" or even things as silly as the fact that my Crown Victoria Police Interceptor I drive every day having level IV ceramic plates in the driver and passenger doors technically making it an "armored vehicle" which it obviously is not. This gets vehicles like Ferrets, BTRs, Foxes, and such giving them enough of an advantage to offset the fact that they do not have cushy seats and air conditioning.

 

 

Just a suggestion, take it for what it is worth.

You actually armored the doors on your Victoria?

[Aswayze 364]

Yes, it's one of the police package options that you occasionally get with surplus cop cars like mine. It mostly just makes the doors heavy. I also have the super fun time fire suppression system.

[3-GUN 67]

Hmm

The only armor Ive heard of cruisers having is 3A Kevlar panels in the doors...and thats extremely rare. Dont want to derail the thread but Ive never heard of any department utilizing hard armor on squad cars. Id love it if you could link something.

[Aswayze 364]

It's on the options list on the invoice I got with my car. I had not paid it much mind since it just makes the doors heavy and adds no value to my life since I am most certainly not getting into a gunfight with my car.

 

Edit, got out of work and looked again.  You are correct it's III.  

 

Point still stands however that a Crown Victoria is still not a real armored vehicle.  

[Trunksword 3]

Clarification request:
Q.  If a gun truck wishes to have any windows closed, they must be covered with add on armor. (This is to prevent windows from being rolled up and down throughout the weekend.

This does not apply to the driver/passenger windows does it, since they HAVE to remain closed at all times, right?

Edit: Will the AO map be available early so I can get it laminated/sized for my preference, or might it come already laminated?

[Alex AMS 614]

This thread is in relation to the 2015 ruleset changes.  There have been changes regarding vehicle rules for OBH 5.  All windows must be down, including the drivers windows.  Check out the OBH thread regarding rule changes.  The ruleset will be updated soon so that all of the rules are in one piece, and will be a little easier to understand.