Alex AMS 614 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 A few people have asked about what kind of war crimes tracking we did, and if we knew what the war crimes were. Here's a list of the war crimes that were perpetrated by each side. Names have been removed. Not complying with medic drag rule Short medic bandage Short medic bandage Short Medic Bandage incorrect medic tie Drag rule violation Talking while dead Impropper drag Blind firing Eye pro (Mframe no Helo kit) Shooting out Lights Invalid Bandage Impropper dragging Shooting out lights Talking while dead Calling other people's hits Calling other people's hits Improper drag Improper drag Improper drag Improper drag improper drag Barricaded door Short Bandage Improper Pants Impropper drag rule Calling other peoples hits 1 TheJP reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Specs Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Thanks for this list! Sounds like bandage length and improper drag are the most common offenses. Will be sure to drill these into my teams brains. I assume the drag errors were in the downed person assisting the dragger? Also, shooting out lights? What the hell? haha 1 TheJP reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex AMS 614 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Most of the impropper dragging was people placing their hand on a wounded persons shoulder and then walking them to behind cover. I said in every briefing: "wounded players are not to move under their own power". 1 TheJP reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Yuk 229 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Good stuff Alex. Thanks again for your hard work. 1 TheJP reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokingpancake 25 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 A couple of Qs about this: 1. To clarify, "Dead men don't talk" refers to notifying your team in any way about enemy positions or movement, not talking quietly with other "dead" players, regardless of faction. I.e., I'm not going to get dinged for hanging out with dead CoST or UFS while I bleed out, right? 2. Does the medic rule just enforce "wounded may not move under their own power"? For example, we've got He-Man on our squad; can he 1-man carry a wounded player instead of dragging him? Thanks Alex! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex AMS 614 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 A couple of Qs about this: 1. To clarify, "Dead men don't talk" refers to notifying your team in any way about enemy positions or movement, not talking quietly with other "dead" players, regardless of faction. I.e., I'm not going to get dinged for hanging out with dead CoST or UFS while I bleed out, right? 2. Does the medic rule just enforce "wounded may not move under their own power"? For example, we've got He-Man on our squad; can he 1-man carry a wounded player instead of dragging him? Thanks Alex!1. I don't care if you talk to other dead players, or congratulate the guy that just rolled your whole squad. But you may not yell, or point. I'm pretty sure that the guys who got dinged on this were pointing or yelling at their buddies. 2. I don't care how you move a casualty as long as the casualty is not doing the moving. That being said, don't drag your buddy down a bunch of stairs, or carry him down the side of a cliff etc. Use good judgement. Also if you are wounded and you don't want to be dragged or carried, let everyone know that you don't want to be dragged or carried. 1 TheJP reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJP 3,298 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 Some people bitch about the drag rules, but between the drag and SA rule the game dynamic has totally been changed FOR THE BETTER! I can hardly stand to play events that allow FA for everyone now... That being said, use common sense when dragging or being dragged I had a few instances where I just told my medic to let me bleed out. For desd players talking, just like Alex said, the staff won't care if your telling someone "Good Job" or a "Thumbs up" or even talking to your own dead squadmate, but as soon as you begin to gesture or talk to "live players" you're gonna get flagged with a War Crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Yuk 229 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 The drag rule and usage of proper medic bandages offered a VERY COOL dynamic to the game. We are looking to "borrow" the rules for usage at our field. I find it ironic that we all attended a MILitary SIMulation but soo many seemed to not want to simulate realistic situations. Good on you guys at AMS for pushing the boundaries of Milsim! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parks 121 Report post Posted November 24, 2014 I sure hope the players shooting out lights got sent home. That's ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
